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dyebat
Posts : 3864 Points : 4047 Join date : 2010-08-19 Location : Illinois, USA
| Subject: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:07 pm | |
| http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2It's 2.5 years later, the laws are still difficult to enforce, and people still don't realize how much damage cyber bullies like walkerd/Orgonon/etc. and the villains in that article can do. They are the virtual equivalent of Unibombers. The stalker/bully from the beginning has attempted to divide the Susan Boyle community. His modus operandi has been to present half truths taken out of context and accompanied by incorrect inferences and conclusions. The most dreadful example of this is the joke about DJGers buying ew at the auction to take it over, and the extreme paranoia that generated, with the damaging results on July 18 and later. Every time we try to focus on him, distractions & red herrings arise, and we begin squabbling among ourselves--just what he's trying to accomplish. In another venue, he bragged about "bringing down" an Elton John site, and said he wanted to do that at ew. That is my concern about the new anonymous site. The author is not revealing his/her real identity, transcripts are taken out of context, and inaccurate conclusions are drawn. While the blogger may well be on the side of truth, this means of communicating follows the cyberbully/cyberstalker's pattern. Lchris addresses this problem of miscommunication that has occurred in the most recent susaleak blog; you can read her post on our site. It would be easier for her to let the post stand, and collude in adding more hatred towards ew staff, but that is not in her nature. Truth is. The real enemy is not other Susan fans; it is the kind of person revealed in that article. |
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BettyBoop
Posts : 28543 Points : 32358 Join date : 2009-09-19
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:24 pm | |
| Thanks for that post, Dyebat. Very interesting article and good information by you. |
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Clix Pix
Posts : 48053 Points : 49392 Join date : 2009-09-25 Location : ɐsn `ɐʌ ɟo ɥʇlɐǝʍuoɯɯoɔ
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:30 pm | |
| Wow!! That article is a must-read. Thank you very much, Dyebat.
That last sentence is key. I think that for people like the cyberbully who has repeatedly caused problems for the Susan Boyle fan community, the problem is that they have no empathy, no real understanding of or desire to understand, their fellow human beings. That's sad. It is also terrifying.
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janakimack
Posts : 10861 Points : 11460 Join date : 2009-10-09
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:34 pm | |
| It's scary to know that there are so many people who enjoy causing mayhem in the world and in people's lives. As you say Dyebat "and Weep" and one feels that powerless in the face of this level of venom that all one can do is weep. Thanks for posting one also has to know and confront these things too. |
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whisper
Posts : 13446 Points : 13780 Join date : 2011-02-02
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:38 pm | |
| Very good article thank you for bringing this. It is interesting that there are people arriving joy from a persons pain. Something is sick in that. Though I wonder cyber bullies seem to feed on people on the excitement they create, I wonder what the difference is of a cyber bully and a con artist? Empathy is a human reaction and I also wonder when empathy is exploited. The Internet seems to be a a sport for people. |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 16274 Points : 19540 Join date : 2009-09-19
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:56 am | |
| This has now been moved to the guest section at the OP's request. |
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Wabbit
Posts : 80325 Points : 81921 Join date : 2009-10-11 Location : Illinois, USA
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bajaraquel
Posts : 2225 Points : 2330 Join date : 2009-11-16 Location : Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:18 am | |
| Cyber bullies and power mongers all for what? |
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whisper
Posts : 13446 Points : 13780 Join date : 2011-02-02
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:01 am | |
| - bajaraquel wrote:
- Cyber bullies and power mongers all for what?
Greed and self gratification feeling of superiority. |
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Ammo
Posts : 3281 Points : 3519 Join date : 2009-09-25 Age : 75 Location : Port Dover, Ontario, Canada
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tonnie_rocca
Posts : 8986 Points : 10042 Join date : 2009-09-20 Location : Rome, Italy
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:29 am | |
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Thanks Dyebat Actually I am beginning to like that blog less and less, and not only for the anonimity... it's simply too destructive. |
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janakimack
Posts : 10861 Points : 11460 Join date : 2009-10-09
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:17 am | |
| - tonnie_rocca wrote:
Thanks Dyebat
Actually I am beginning to like that blog less and less, and not only for the anonimity... it's simply too destructive.
Not that one wants to get paranoid or anything but with that lunatic cyber/stalker/bully loose, isn't it better that we make sure that the blogger is not him/her? |
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tonnie_rocca
Posts : 8986 Points : 10042 Join date : 2009-09-20 Location : Rome, Italy
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:29 am | |
| - janakimack wrote:
- tonnie_rocca wrote:
- Thanks Dyebat
Actually I am beginning to like that blog less and less, and not only for the anonimity... it's simply too destructive.
Not that one wants to get paranoid or anything but with that lunatic cyber/stalker/bully loose, isn't it better that we make sure that the blogger is not him/her? Well, considering that he/she takes it with ew, I would think it's up to them in the first place to find that out. But actually it's in everyone's interest to know at least if it's the Dementor or not. |
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Lovin' Every Minute
Posts : 5255 Points : 5473 Join date : 2009-09-22 Location : Connecticut, USA
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:35 am | |
| Cyber bullies, cyber stalkers, dementors - rules, regulations, bannings, flame wars, overzealous members - objective and subjective interpretations of posts and actions, hurt feelings all the way around - ALL of this is perhaps an excellent reminder as to why it's important to keep these internet interactions in perspective, and not let them take precedence over our real lives. It's nice to see my friend Ammo back, and making that point so well. Good to see you Ammo! |
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janakimack
Posts : 10861 Points : 11460 Join date : 2009-10-09
| Subject: Re: Read This (All 7 Pages) and Weep Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:38 am | |
| - Lovin' Every Minute wrote:
- Cyber bullies, cyber stalkers, dementors - rules, regulations, bannings, flame wars, overzealous members - objective and subjective interpretations of posts and actions, hurt feelings all the way around - ALL of this is perhaps an excellent reminder as to why it's important to keep these internet interactions in perspective, and not let them take precedence over our real lives. It's nice to see my friend Ammo back, and making that point so well.
Good to see you Ammo!
Ammo's the best - ALWAYS good to see her online!!! And, yes, LEM, you're so right - be very wary online... A good lesson for us all!!! |
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Ammo
Posts : 3281 Points : 3519 Join date : 2009-09-25 Age : 75 Location : Port Dover, Ontario, Canada
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