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PostSubject: What Happened In Scotland???   Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:13 pm

All this turmoil at SBFII with letters to moderators,no thank yous, pre-moderations, one mod gone. What the heck happened in Scotland to cause all this turmoil. In fact, 2 VERY vocal and important members of the hierarchy have not posted for 8 and 11 days apiece; even though they are twittering and posting in news articles. What the heck happened in Scotland?? It had to be huge!!
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PostSubject: The Saga Continues   Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:11 am

Let's see if I have this right. Circ., a former SBF!! mod made considerable waves concerning the Conflict of Interest issue on the forum. Then, lo and behold, Circ. takes a trip to Australia and a boat ride -----and comes back a changed woman, full of moddish vigor to toe the line and enforce all the rules. And now just recently, member LT makes a fuss about the enforcement of rules at SBF!! and steams the place up pretty well, causing all sorts of consternation for TPTB. And then,---what do you know?? LT is declared winner of a rather secret and circumscribed contest, the winners of which get a private meeting with Susan and a chance to stay in a posh setting and listen to tracks from her latest CD. A lucky surprise,---a wild coincidence?? Or a way to try and remove an inconvenient thorn-in-the side? Hmmmm. Just wondering.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:03 am

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Let's see if I have this right. Circ., a former SBF!! mod made considerable waves concerning the Conflict of Interest issue on the forum. Then, lo and behold, Circ. takes a trip to Australia and a boat ride -----and comes back a changed woman, full of moddish vigor to toe the line and enforce all the rules. And now just recently, member LT makes a fuss about the enforcement of rules at SBF!! and steams the place up pretty well, causing all sorts of consternation for TPTB. And then,---what do you know?? LT is declared winner of a rather secret and circumscribed contest, the winners of which get a private meeting with Susan and a chance to stay in a posh setting and listen to tracks from her latest CD. A lucky surprise,---a wild coincidence?? Or a way to try and remove an inconvenient thorn-in-the side? Hmmmm. Just wondering.

the winner of that contest wasn't exactly a huge surprise. Would be nice if a fan that hasn't seen Susan would get the chance.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:10 am

Common decency would argue that's the right thing to happen. However those die-hards believe they do deserve repeated access to Susan as her only 'real' fans. And now one who had a major part in setting up a Meet (and thus became 'important') and who has just undergone an 'attack' has 'won' this competition?

Something smells really, really awful. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:41 am

I canny ken it. Dinnae get it. What happened to the popular Scottish lad? How will we ever ken aboot the goings-on of oor wee lassie?
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:02 am

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I canny ken it. Dinnae get it. What happened to the popular Scottish lad? How will we ever ken aboot the goings-on of oor wee lassie?

I think the wee lassie should be left well alone by everyone. If she wants a meet and greet then she and her team should organize proper ones for randomly selected fans far away from her home.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:03 pm

Well, I eat crow on a few of my former suppositions. In the first place, as Circ is a native of OZ, she didn't take a trip there, but to AGT, instead, where her ideology transformation seems to have begun. In any event, she seemed to have forgotten that she had formerly been a friend of the membership & a staunch critic of some of the staff policies----and began to become "one of them." Too bad. She morphed into super-mod---then left when she turned out to be stricter than the rest of them.

The Saga contest was legit, through and through, as it turns out. Not even SBF!! admin. could have manipulated the results of that one. So LT's win was fair and square, which is good to know, as she deserved at least that for her recent time and trouble for the benefit of the fans. Good to be able to clear up all of that and set the record straight. www.saga.co.uk
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:10 pm

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Well, I eat crow on a few of my former suppositions. In the first place, as Circ is a native of OZ, she didn't take a trip there, but to AGT, instead, where her ideology transformation seems to have begun. In any event, she seemed to have forgotten that she had formerly been a friend of the membership & a staunch critic of some of the staff policies----and began to become "one of them." Too bad. She morphed into super-mod---then left when she turned out to be stricter than the rest of them.

The Saga contest was legit, through and through, as it turns out. Not even SBF!! admin. could have manipulated the results of that one. So LT's win was fair and square, which is good to know, as she deserved at least that for her recent time and trouble for the benefit of the fans. Good to be able to clear up all of that and set the record straight. www.saga.co.uk
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:55 pm

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Well, I eat crow on a few of my former suppositions. In the first place, as Circ is a native of OZ, she didn't take a trip there, but to AGT, instead, where her ideology transformation seems to have begun. In any event, she seemed to have forgotten that she had formerly been a friend of the membership & a staunch critic of some of the staff policies----and began to become "one of them." Too bad. She morphed into super-mod---then left when she turned out to be stricter than the rest of them.

The Saga contest was legit, through and through, as it turns out. Not even SBF!! admin. could have manipulated the results of that one. So LT's win was fair and square, which is good to know, as she deserved at least that for her recent time and trouble for the benefit of the fans. Good to be able to clear up all of that and set the record straight. www.saga.co.uk
And you know this how????
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New information----from a trusted source. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:59 pm

But how trustworthy is that "trusted source's" source?
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:59 pm

WAMcKinley wrote:
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Well, I eat crow on a few of my former suppositions. In the first place, as Circ is a native of OZ, she didn't take a trip there, but to AGT, instead, where her ideology transformation seems to have begun. In any event, she seemed to have forgotten that she had formerly been a friend of the membership & a staunch critic of some of the staff policies----and began to become "one of them." Too bad. She morphed into super-mod---then left when she turned out to be stricter than the rest of them.

The Saga contest was legit, through and through, as it turns out. Not even SBF!! admin. could have manipulated the results of that one. So LT's win was fair and square, which is good to know, as she deserved at least that for her recent time and trouble for the benefit of the fans. Good to be able to clear up all of that and set the record straight. www.saga.co.uk
And you know this how????
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New information----from a trusted source. Smile

Thank you Wam. Yes she deserved it and I am happy she won...Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:31 pm

ALWAYS some member there winning in a competition?!?!??!?!?! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:35 pm



Or there are much less fans than we think, or... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:46 pm

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ALWAYS some member there winning in a competition?!?!??!?!?! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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The contest was for UK residents only and 50 yrs of age or older. So anyone outside the UK wouldn't have been eligible, anyhow. Apparently the contest was advertised in the Saga magazine "Lifestyles" section. And who would know about that but the Brits?? Plus who would care except for Susan fans??
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:54 pm

Well, yes, we know that, WAM. That has nothing to do with how it is that one particular member of EW who is in fact over 50 and who does live in the UK, so therefore qualified to enter, just happened to be one of the lucky winners.... I think we can imagine why and how this person might have had an "edge" that others did not. Certainly I can think of others from the UK over age 50 who also entered, too but who just weren't lucky enough this time..... It just is all a little tooooo coincidental if you ask me.....
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:59 pm

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Well, yes, we know that, WAM. That has nothing to do with how it is that one particular member of EW who is in fact over 50 and who does live in the UK, so therefore qualified to enter, just happened to be one of the lucky winners.... I think we can imagine why and how this person might have had an "edge" that others did not. Certainly I can think of others from the UK over age 50 who also entered, too but who just weren't lucky enough this time..... It just is all a little tooooo coincidental if you ask me.....
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooooooooooo coincidental!
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:00 pm

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Well, yes, we know that, WAM. That has nothing to do with how it is that one particular member of EW who is in fact over 50 and who does live in the UK, so therefore qualified to enter, just happened to be one of the lucky winners.... I think we can imagine why and how this person might have had an "edge" that others did not. Certainly I can think of others from the UK over age 50 who also entered, too but who just weren't lucky enough this time..... It just is all a little tooooo coincidental if you ask me.....
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Obviously that's what I imagined, too, hence my original post. But I was apparently misinformed. So I corrected it.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:13 pm

Your correction only mentioned the facts we already knew about the contest and the criteria, etc...... That's not what is at issue. Now, yes, if someone from the US or from somewhere other than the UK had entered by giving false information such as using a UK friend's address or some such (that has been done before in other situations) that again would be another big deal.

Whatever, we'll never know the truth and I hope that everyone who attends that event has a nice time and that at least some of the attendees have never met Susan before so it could truly be special........
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:19 pm

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Your correction only mentioned the facts we already knew about the contest and the criteria, etc...... That's not what is at issue. Now, yes, if someone from the US or from somewhere other than the UK had entered by giving false information such as using a UK friend's address or some such (that has been done before in other situations) that again would be another big deal.

Whatever, we'll never know the truth and I hope that everyone who attends that event has a nice time and that at least some of the attendees have never met Susan before so it could truly be special........
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My "correction" specified that I had been given additional information from someone who knows more about the situation and could tell me that I was mistaken in my original assumption. I trust the new information I was given----and that's why I said what I did. It's my conviction and mine only. No one else is required to agree with me.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:20 pm

With the "right" connections, anything is possible. If you want an example just look at a past presidential election in the US and the fiasco in FL. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:22 pm

I am taking Wam's word it's good enough for me.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:25 pm

whisper wrote:
I am taking Wam's word it's good enough for me.

I am not doubting WAM's word or even the person WAM got the word from.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:27 pm

bernicer wrote:
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I am taking Wam's word it's good enough for me.

I am not doubting WAM's word or even the person WAM got the word from.
I do not doubt WAM. I doubt the source.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:29 pm

How do we even know if the Price Is Right is on the up and up. LOLflag
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:31 pm

Let's wait and see how it all falls out. Maybe LT will tell her story one day of why she really left the forum. Also bug and WW----and any of the others falling by the wayside. (Circ.??) Obviously there's been a lot of disenchantment at the old forum recently,----even more than usual.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:37 pm

Saga Group
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Saga Group Limited

Type Private Limited
Industry Insurance, Travel, Financial Services, Healthcare
Founded United Kingdom (1959)
Headquarters Folkestone, Kent, UK
Parent Acromas Holdings Limited
Website www.saga.co.uk
Saga (from Social Amenities for the Golden Age[1]) is a British company focused on serving the needs of those aged 50 and over. It has 2.7 million customers. The company has six call centres. All are in the UK, four in Folkestone, Kent at Middelburg Square, Enbrook Park, Cheriton Park and Ross Way; the fifth at the Eurokent Business park in Ramsgate, Kent, and the newest at Priory Square in Hastings.[2][3][4] The director general is Dr Ros Altmann.[5]
Saga Holidays provides package holidays and tours across the globe, it owns and operates the cruise ships Saga Pearl, Saga Sapphire and Saga Ruby and also owns and operates the Bel Jou Hotel in St Lucia, as well as the Spirit of Adventure cruising brand.
Saga Insurance provides a wide range of Insurance products (Motor, Home, Travel, Caravan, Commercial Van, Pet, Private Medical, Life Insurance, Motorhome)
Saga Personal Finance provides savings accounts, credit cards, travel money, financial advice, equity release, share dealing, annuities, life assurance & long term care funding advice.
Saga Healthcare (previously branded as Saga Independent Living) provides domicillary care nationwide. (After the acquisitions of Nestor and Allied Healthcare)
Sidney De Haan founded the company. His son Roger De Haan took over in 1984, after his father's retirement.
Saga was acquired by the private equity firm Charterhouse in 2004. Saga merged with The AA (owned by CVC and Permira) to form Acromas Holdings.
[edit]Magazine

Saga operates a subscription magazine, Saga Magazine, claiming a circulation figure of over 650,000 and a readership of some 2 million per month. Founded by Paul Bach, under his editorship it became Britain's biggest-selling monthly magazine.[6] It is currently edited by Kate Bravery, and Emma Soames is the Editor-at-Large.
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AWFULLY FANTASTIC ODDS!--one winner out of 5!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:42 pm

I guess we'd have to know how many people entered the contest to be able draw any such conclusions, wouldn't we??
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:52 pm

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I guess we'd have to know how many people entered the contest to be able draw any such conclusions, wouldn't we??
Yes we would, but given those numbers the probability is there were quite a number of entrants. You just cannot argue with mathematical probabilities!
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:53 pm

And, BTW, I am sure almost ALL the readers are over 50 years old! Wink Wink Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:54 pm

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WAMcKinley wrote:
I guess we'd have to know how many people entered the contest to be able draw any such conclusions, wouldn't we??
Yes we would, but given those numbers the probability is there were quite a number of entrants. You just cannot argue with mathematical probabilities!
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:56 pm

WAMcKinley wrote:
fudgemeister wrote:
WAMcKinley wrote:
I guess we'd have to know how many people entered the contest to be able draw any such conclusions, wouldn't we??
Yes we would, but given those numbers the probability is there were quite a number of entrants. You just cannot argue with mathematical probabilities!
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I know. I meant the general reader out there of this thread! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Wink Wink Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:42 pm

WOW! I am told that the VERY popular Scottish male resident has not posted for ELEVEN days!!!! BUT, he does lurk. I am also told that a past admin. who usually posts quite often has not posted for FOURTEEN days!! Wonder what the reason is. And even more amazing NO members bring it up. Well, not amazing at all with the atmosphere that has been built there.
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:59 pm

Oh, you mean the "Don't ask, Don't tell" atmosphere? Is that the one?
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PostSubject: Re: What Happened In Scotland???   Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:02 pm

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Saga Group
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Saga Group Limited

Type Private Limited
Industry Insurance, Travel, Financial Services, Healthcare
Founded United Kingdom (1959)
Headquarters Folkestone, Kent, UK
Parent Acromas Holdings Limited
Website www.saga.co.uk
Saga (from Social Amenities for the Golden Age[1]) is a British company focused on serving the needs of those aged 50 and over. It has 2.7 million customers. The company has six call centres. All are in the UK, four in Folkestone, Kent at Middelburg Square, Enbrook Park, Cheriton Park and Ross Way; the fifth at the Eurokent Business park in Ramsgate, Kent, and the newest at Priory Square in Hastings.[2][3][4] The director general is Dr Ros Altmann.[5]
Saga Holidays provides package holidays and tours across the globe, it owns and operates the cruise ships Saga Pearl, Saga Sapphire and Saga Ruby and also owns and operates the Bel Jou Hotel in St Lucia, as well as the Spirit of Adventure cruising brand.
Saga Insurance provides a wide range of Insurance products (Motor, Home, Travel, Caravan, Commercial Van, Pet, Private Medical, Life Insurance, Motorhome)
Saga Personal Finance provides savings accounts, credit cards, travel money, financial advice, equity release, share dealing, annuities, life assurance & long term care funding advice.
Saga Healthcare (previously branded as Saga Independent Living) provides domicillary care nationwide. (After the acquisitions of Nestor and Allied Healthcare)
Sidney De Haan founded the company. His son Roger De Haan took over in 1984, after his father's retirement.
Saga was acquired by the private equity firm Charterhouse in 2004. Saga merged with The AA (owned by CVC and Permira) to form Acromas Holdings.
[edit]Magazine

Saga operates a subscription magazine, Saga Magazine, claiming a circulation figure of over 650,000 and a readership of some 2 million per month. Founded by Paul Bach, under his editorship it became Britain's biggest-selling monthly magazine.[6] It is currently edited by Kate Bravery, and Emma Soames is the Editor-at-Large.
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AWFULLY FANTASTIC ODDS!--one winner out of 5!!!!!
How come at any event, no matter what it is, an SBFII member ALWAYS manages to be a winner of some contest??? It has happened, once again, with that listening party which has now been postponed. Amazingly, out of 15 "supposed" winners, two are from SBFII.
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