Some SBFII Members Win Bid On Dress

Some SBFII members bid on Ebay for one of Susan's performance dresses, and they won! The winning bid was £1551. That will go to the Prince's Trust fund. I am fairly certain that a special someone will be going to Susan's house to deliver the news.

It's a sure bet that the 'losing' bidder is a member there too. Something is very smelly about the whole thing. As long as PT can hoof it over to Blackburn with a sizable check to get Susans gratitude, that's all that matters. If they cared about 'charity' they'd donate anonymously. It's all about scoring points with Susan.

The way I see it, this whole thing was both unethical and illegal. But, that's the US government/State of Delaware's and eBay's problem, not mine....

Who do they think they're fooling, congratulating themselves?!!!! Notice how, previously, they were also soliciting support and bids....



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CONGRATULATIONS to the anonymous winner of Susan's performance dress - auctioned in aid of @PrincesTrust. Awesome! And TY to @Sellebrity_UK!
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Want a piece of Susan's Boyle's music history, likely to go up in value? Bid now on her dress for @PrincesTrust. 45 min http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170860299685#ht_1300wt_1185

Music to a bossy cow's ears!!!! Ahhhhh!

I just thought of something rather amazing. The pledgers had agreed that IF they did not get the winning bid, they STILL were going to donate all the pledges to the Prince's Trust. Think about it. If that was the case, would it have not been WAAAAAY more charitable to let the dress go to one of the other bidders??? There were 3 bidders in till the end. If they let the other bidder win it, then the Trust would have gotten approximately TWICE the amount of money. Yes---TWICE the amount of money!But then another question gets raised. Who were the other 2 bidders and did they have ulterior motives too?

Wonder what becomes of the dress now?? That will be an interesting decision.

Oh, the people who pledged their money will probably all fight over what happens to the dress..... Since each of them contributed money to this "cause," they will feel entitled to a say in what happens next. Oh, wait -- isn't that the way things SHOULD go?

WAMcKinley wrote:

Wonder what becomes of the dress now?? That will be an interesting decision.

The first thing I thought of was to get Flat susan to wear it. But, the more I thought about it, I realized that the dress would not fit right on a cardboard figure. So, I think the best idea would be for them to get a true life-size doll of Susan. That way the dress will fit perfectly. The down side.............NOT good news for Flat Susan. Could be her demise!

The dress will be displayed at M&G's in a place of honor, perhaps on a mannequin or at worst, on Flat Susan. Then there will be fights about its transport, what M&Gs are important enough to host the dress, who will be in charge of the holy relic and so on.

Judging from the posts during the bidding, the hope was that the fans would pay top dollar for the dress and were hoping the losing bidder would continue to push up the bids. This is so suspicious because using fan money to buy the dress is one thing but is it possible that certain fans knew someone was deliberately pushing up the bids so there would be a good result and that fans who had pledged to contribute, would have to keep giving? I think so.

The whole operation was less than above board and it appears that one of the objectives was to make sure the dress didn't once again sell for an embarrassingly low bid as it did the first time around.

If the main objective was make certain the dress sold at a respectable price they could have dropped out of the bidding late in the game and let it go to the other bidder. As was mentioned previously, they intended to donate their funds no matter what the outcome of the auction. The charity would have benefited with nearly double the amount of money.

Let's face it. It is the worst looking dress in Susan's performance wardrobe. The fans that bought it are now stuck with a butt ugly dress and have to decide where to unload it. BUT they got their prestige with Susan.

Someone suggested donating it to a local museum. Well, many people try to give museums stuff that is important only to them. Museums many times have to turn down items because they are not worthy of the cost of maintaining them and they take up space that could be put to better use. The significant dress to a local museum would be the audition dress, not this one.

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The PTB should have considered all these things before embarking on this trip...
An old Dutch saying is: think before you act.
To whom belongs the dress now, as stated it is not EW's, so whose is it, and who decides on its destiny??
Moreover, I don't believe that any museum would be interested.

All in, a muddled enterprise, and not the first one.

Poor Susan, all this over her head.

I ran this situation past people on another forum -- a non-Susan-related forum -- without mentioning names of either the celebrity or the forum (SBFII) involved -- and so far the feedback has been along the lines of "how significant in the worldwide scheme of things is this? People are starving all around the world and these people are buying a celebrity's used dress?" Also others see the potential for a legal nightmare and agree that this was unethical behavior. One person asked, "what happens if not everyone comes through with their pledge? Who gets stuck paying the balance? Who gets custody of the dress and what will they do with it?" Yep.....

I seriously doubt any museum would be the least bit interested and so what happens to the dress? I'll bet they end up fighting about it and who gets to keep custody of it, etc.

fudgemeister wrote:

I just thought of something rather amazing. The pledgers had agreed that IF they did not get the winning bid, they STILL were going to donate all the pledges to the Prince's Trust. Think about it. If that was the case, would it have not been WAAAAAY more charitable to let the dress go to one of the other bidders??? There were 3 bidders in till the end. If they let the other bidder win it, then the Trust would have gotten approximately TWICE the amount of money. Yes---TWICE the amount of money!But then another question gets raised. Who were the other 2 bidders and did they have ulterior motives too?

Sometimes Fudge your ranting makes sense. It would have been bloody brilliant to have backed off at the last moment and doubled the amount given to charity. Now there will be endless debate over the dress, hard feelings between those who donated and those who get to see the dress, tell Susan etc. Naturally this site will get blamed and used as a diversion tactic to keep the honest people wanting to help a chairty from knowing the truth.

There are many charities that need help and will send a thank you card to anyone you name. Kiva.org is an excellent organization and many of us on this site and the Duende site have supported Heifer.org in Susan's name. They send a card to Susan and she is informed of the donation. Us evil doers on this site have often helped our local charities like BOH sending me hand made scarves to give to the disabled orphans. This wouldn't have happened if not for Susan. She has made a big difference in many lives and knows nothing of it and I can only believe the goodness will vibrate to her on a level we can't understand.

There are many good people in Susan fandom with big hearts, I know and am deeply greatful, bashing everyone as a group doesn't sit well with me, when I know many of the people who donated did so from the heart with the desire to honor Susan as the goal. Like many things in the past three years, the idea is great but always seems to get sidetracked by personal goals of a small handful of people. Honor Susan and give from the heart and let go of the outcome.

bajaraquel wrote:

There are many good people in Susan fandom with big hearts, I know and am deeply grateful, bashing everyone as a group doesn't sit well with me, when I know many of the people who donated did so from the heart with the desire to honor Susan as the goal. Like many things in the past three years, the idea is great but always seems to get sidetracked by personal goals of a small handful of people. Honor Susan and give from the heart and let go of the outcome.

Wise words, Bajaraquel !!!

Haven't they got anything more important to print than that? Hardly earth shattering news!